Overview & Staff

Too Old Dudes (or its alternate name of Two Old Dudes) is a technology proprietorship.   The principal is John D. Starr, former technology manager at the Center for Nonprofit Management (CNM) in Dallas.   The secondary is Paul N. Lee, contractor and owner of Nahee Enterprises.   Both were primary technology instructors for CNM over the past several years, and worked together as programmers at AT&T in the mid-1990's.   They may be reached through any of the ways listed on the Contact Us web page.


John D. Starr photographJohn Starr, the younger of the "old dudes", has been in technology for 30 years.   He started out as all good little programmers did back in the dark ages, working on mainframes and using a cardpunch to enter his COBOL code.   He spent many years working for various companies in the mainframe world:   Texas Commerce Bank (now J P Morgan Chase), TI, MBNA, AT&T, and others.   He eventually saw the light and started working on PCs using MS Office products, where he even wrote an application in Access for the SMU COX school of Business MBA department.   He then got the web bug and did a stint as a web programmer for ealumni in Dallas, TX.   While there, he did web sites for the alumni associations at SMU, University of Miami, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, and many other schools.   Eventually he ended up working as a DBA at the Center for Nonprofit Management, and was asked by Sharon Bailey, then the CNM director of Education (now the Executive Director of The Learning Center of North Texas), to create a seminar on Access.   This was then followed by seminars in Excel, Outlook, PowerPoint, SQL, and some other PC related classes.   Now he is the proud owner of Too Old Dudes and a partner with the older and more experienced "dude".


Paul N. Lee photographPaul N. Lee has been professionally involved with data processing and information technology since 1974.   He has worked with more operating systems and programming languages than most people have even heard of, including hardware environments from mainframes to mini-computers.   Though he has two college degrees, one in Engineering and the other in Graphic Arts, he prefers the more technical computer world.   Within the North Texas area, there are hundreds of organizations that have made use of his database and systems knowledge along with his coding skills, plus he is a "Top Contributor" within various online knowledge-base resources.   If a problem needs a resolution, then he is the man that usually will make it happen.


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